Amazing Webfairy aerial map of Ground Zero

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Amazing Webfairy aerial map of Ground Zero

Post  Redhead on Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:53 pm

http://thewebfairy.com/911/crimescene/index.htm

Incredible pictures of the crime scene...

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Re: Amazing Webfairy aerial map of Ground Zero

Post  Jackal on Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:03 am

That is a pretty cool picture. Can anyone out there who is trained in such things point out all the interesting bits from the photo?

Is there a break-down of what we're looking at somewhere out on the interweb?

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Re: Amazing Webfairy aerial map of Ground Zero

Post  Redhead on Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:52 am

I dunno but I am not ever gonna go there again now I know it's fricking radioactive.

You know people in NY even think that, like quite a few do and they are scared to say so in public. Just goes to show normal people arent' always as stupid as people say.

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Re: Amazing Webfairy aerial map of Ground Zero

Post  Jackal on Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:02 pm

Actually the site being radioactive makes it more appealing to me. I want to head there and check it out myself - put my hand in the wound, as it were. If this means sucking up a few more doses of radiation, then so be it.

In 'The Third Truth', Khalesov gives "A Brief Introduction to Nuclear Weapons" which speaks about the different destructive factors in an atomic blast. (Very interesting reading. This chapter is included in the Bali bombing pdf too.) Radioactive contamination is cited as one of the destructive factors, divided into two parts - induced radiation and so-called residual radiation.

Khalesov writes...
"Induced radiation is a property of certain common materials that could become radiactive of themselves after being subjected to penetrating radiation of a nuclear explosion."
"Residual radiation results from various highly poisonous short-living and long-living radio-nuclides that become abundant after a nuclear explosion."

By the sounds of it, while breathing in contaminated dust would be BAD, but the dangers of that should have well & truly passed by now - 8 years on - and background radiation would have a neglible effect on humans.
(If I am incorrect in my summation, please correct me.)

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Re: Amazing Webfairy aerial map of Ground Zero

Post  911thology on Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:33 pm

Jackal wrote:
By the sounds of it, while breathing in contaminated dust would be BAD, but the dangers of that should have well & truly passed by now - 8 years on - and background radiation would have a neglible effect on humans.
(If I am incorrect in my summation, please correct me.)


Hi to everybody. My name is Dimitri Khalezov - I am actually an author of the book you are talking about.

To answer your question in regard to radiation on "Ground Zero". Of course, there was sufficient radiation danger there, otherwise, why should they call it "ground zero" and evacuate population for 6 months? But, in order to be able to realize potential harmful effects of radiation, you have to understand its physical properties first:

1) Induced radiation in Manhattan. There were no surface materials subjected to any direct penetrating radiation of actual nuclear explosions in that case. Because all three nuclear explosions on "ground zero" occurred 77 meters deep underground - so all penetrating ionizing radiation has been immediately absorbed by surrounding layers of still solid granite rock and could not travel far. In only a split of a second these layers of rock were evaporated and then cooled down relatively quickly only to be reduced to some liquid matter that understandably concentrated at the bottoms of underground cavities being sth. like 120-130 meters far from the surface (considering that hypocenters of nuclear explosions were 77 meters below surface and radiuses of cavities were about 50 meters). In these circumstances harmful effects of induced radiation were limited, since no surface materials could be involved in such a process, but only those ones located deep underground. You can be subjected to harmful effects of induced radiation only if you look directly into the cavities openings - which is very unlikely; though some definitely innocent guys managed to avail themselves of such a rare opportunity, still - like those guys depicted in the below photo:



2) However, it was not so easy with the second component - residual radiation. This one was widely available on Manhattan and has indeed caused a lot of troubles. It happened because all those poisonous radio-nuclides could be easily deposited on small particles of microscopic dust and especially on small particles of vapor that was seen emanating from these deep underground cavities into atmosphere for months after the actual explosions. These small particles of radioactive dust and especially radioactive vapors containing alpha- and beta- radioactive particles were extremely suitable to inhale or to ingest. Once inside you body they would continue to irradiate you from inside and in only a year or two (depends on the strength of your health and depends on the actual number of radioactive materials deposited inside your body) you would accumulate enough damage to become visibly sick with so-called "chronic radiation sickness", which is absolutely incurable and leads to guaranteed death from leukemia and other kinds of cancer and secondary infections in only a couple of years more (don't confuse this one with "acute radiation sickness" that is caused by huge doses of acquired gamma-radiation usually in result of direct penetrating radiation of nuclear explosion - because the acute radiation sickness becomes noticeable in only a couple of days).

So, coming back to Manhattan "ground zero" - whether it is dangerous or not to visit it today. No, it is no longer dangerous. Because, due to unprecedented though covert efforts of American ABC specialists the three deep underground cavities were first forcibly cooled down by using various chemicals (this forceful process took slightly more than half-year, while in natural circumstances it would take about three years). After that the cool cavities were diligently filled with some protective materials that would prevent any further emitting of radiation upwards - so they were sealed using some kind of underground "Sarcophaguses" not visible above surface. In addition to all of it, after removal of all debris remaining after the WTC demolition, they very carefully collected all microscopic particles of radioactive dust using vacuum cleaners, and then washed all buildings and streets using special ABC chemical solvent - to ensure that remaining microscopic radioactive materials would be removed. Theoretically, of course, it is possible that some quantities of radioactive materials (especially long-living isotopes) could still remain in some crevices or in some hidden pockets of constructions around, and they could be one day taken into an air by an unfortunate gasp of wind and inhaled by someone, but I guess such a theoretical danger could be neglected today. It was extremely dangerous to come even near to the "Ground Zero" during the first 7 months when vapors were still emitting and not all dust was collected by vacuum-cleaners, and it was still very dangerous to visit these areas for the next two years. But starting from the third year it seems to be OK to go there.

If anyone wishes to enlighten himself concerning protective works in regard to radioactivity on "Ground Zero", please, read this extremely seditious article (but you have to be able to read it "between the lines", of course):

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn1634&print=true

I hope this info will help.

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Re: Amazing Webfairy aerial map of Ground Zero

Post  Jonathan Nolan on Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:17 pm

Dimitri in one post provides more factual information than most whole DVDs or books on 9/11... but he is the fraud? The criticisms of him and his book are LAUGHABLE.

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