ALIEN BODIES

[Redhead]

ALIEN BODIES

ALIEN BODIES is a conspiracy wiki that lists the most amazing and occult information, especially on the 1960s counterculture and serial killers. Highly recommended!

[Jackal]

Do we get to see posts from that wiki placed on the forum for discussion?

[Jackal]

I just watched the subliminal message from 'Aladin'. Interesting. Very interesting. Turn the volume WAY up. You hear the first part clear enough, but it is almost mumbled towards the end. I've encountered similar things before. What is there is certainly enough to make one think 'what the?'.

[Jonathan Nolan]

Do we get to see posts from that wiki placed on the forum for discussion?

Post away! I am happy for any and all the pages to get resposted here. As long as comments and discussion follows.

[Jackal]

The posting regarding a subliminal in 'Aladin' intrigued me. I couldn't just take the word of some YouTube vidoe post. I just listened to my copy of 'Aladin' (the 2 disc special edition).

The subliminal is there. And if this one is true... how much more is there? How deep does this rabbit hole go?

So what the fvck is Disney trying to do? For those who may start to think that raising their kids via the Disney channel isn't such a good idea, I strongly recommend checking out what the Celtic Rebel has to say on the matter. He is no fan of Disney. Nor, after hearing what I just hear on the public-release-buy-it-off-the-shelf-and-play-it-to-entertain-your-children version of the DVD, neither am I. Catchy songs and quirky 'family fun' do not make up for what is being played out in front of your eyes & ears.

(http://celticrebel.wordpress.com)

[Zelator]

I just watched the subliminal message from 'Aladin'. Interesting. Very interesting. Turn the volume WAY up. You hear the first part clear enough, but it is almost mumbled towards the end. I've encountered similar things before. What is there is certainly enough to make one think 'what the?'.

you have me intrigues, can you tell me more, specifically.

I may just buy the dvd to find out.

[Jackal]

Follow the threads on Alien Bodies wiki related to Disney subliminals.

As I am always a big fan of truth, and if you have the spare money, yes buy/rent the film and listen to the part indicated. (Where Alladin is on the balcony trying to see Jasmine.)

[Zelator]

Reading Alienbodies, I came across this entry:

http://alienbodies.wikidot.com/black-dog

Isn't Black Dog also a named or premonition relating to death? I recall that a song of folk singer Nick Drake was called Black Dog and was released after he died.


edit: Nick Drake's music is awesome.

[Zelator]

Also the mention of the Priory of Sion on this page (New World Order) might need to be edited to conform with the declaration:

ALL information in this wiki is factual, not fictional.

The references below to the Priory of Sion are fiction.

... Knights Templar, the military arm of an Illuminati secret society known as the Priory of Sion, kicked off the The Crusades that lasted for over a century and a half. A rift later developed between the Templars and the Priory of Sion when Jerusalem was lost to Saracen Turks in 1187. In 1307, the king of France, Philippe the Fair (a Merovingian Illuminati), coveted the wealth and was jealous of the Templars' power. The French king, being a puppet of the Priory of Sion,...

[Jonathan Nolan]

It's documented historical fact that one of the aliases of the Templars was indeed the Priory. The MODERN use of the name is the fiction, not the original. The fakers used this real title in their modern hoax.

[Zelator]

It's documented historical fact that one of the aliases of the Templars was indeed the Priory. The MODERN use of the name is the fiction, not the original. The fakers used this real title in their modern hoax.

Which source did you use. Interested.

if you are interested, my source is the book The Treasure of Rennes-le-Chateau: A Mystery Solved by by Bill Putnam & John Edwin Wood.

More info here:
http://www.priory-of-sion.com/
http://www.rennes-le-chateau-rhedae.com/

[Jonathan Nolan]

Runciman's History of the Crusades mentions the name in passing... A completely noncontroversial source- ancient now but once widely read and exhaustively detailed history of the Crusades.

Sion was used in several of their titles, Priory was a noncontroversial word as well. In the same way that the Knights Templar term itself is used hither and yon with no regard to its historicity...

[Zelator]

Runciman's History of the Crusades mentions the name in passing... A completely noncontroversial source- ancient now but once widely read and exhaustively detailed history of the Crusades.

Thanks for the cite.
I noticed on Amazon the books were published in 1987, well after the pseudo-histoical Holy Blood Holy Grail. Not disputing the scholarship of Cambridge at all, but other books* have been taken in by the PoS (piece of sh!t ).

When you say "ancient now" you meant to say that the book was first published before the 1980s?

*granted of less scholarship.

Anyway, something to look for next trip to the state library.

Sion was used in several of their titles, Priory was a noncontroversial word as well. In the same way that the Knights Templar term itself is used hither and yon with no regard to its historicity...

Acknowledge your points that priory is a generic word and Sion could be used in differing ways -- don't know enough about that side of history to comment sufficiently. I believe that there was a Mount Sion nearby.

Knights Templar term itself is used hither and yon with no regard to its historicity

Not sure what you mean by this, can you rephrase.

Also, my original comment was that Plantard and co, used a name of their small club which lasted less than a year, and named after a mountain from their area (coincidentally named Sion), to construct a fantastical but delusional history that gave themselves far more importance that they deserved. Very much like a small university gaming club stating that they created the Knights Hospitallers for the scale of fantasy and delusion.

that you quote a respected scholarly publisher makes this very interesting...

[Jonathan Nolan]

Runciman created his multi volume work decades and decades ago. As for the use of the term Knights Templar- in Europe especially there was more familiarity with these things in the public consciousness so the use of the Priory of Sion name isn't as big a deal as might be the case if the hoax had been say English. There are loads of similar survivals in folk lore to borrow from.

[Zelator]

I checked a few of my scholarly books on the crusades and the Knights Templar. In some, Runciman was listed in the bibliography, and said his books were published 1964, 1965, 1966 (IIRC).

Checked the chronology of the PoS hoax, documents were being deposited in Paris and Carcassonne a few years before 1964 and continuing to about 1966 (to give a rough time period). It appears on the surface that the two Runciman's historical fact and Plantard/de Sède/de Chérisey fiction are independently published (derived).

Supposition: Plantard and Co, might have been aware of Runciman's book in the early years of developing their hoax and incorporated it's references to Priory of Sion within their fiction. Note: this would have had to occurred after they starting writing the fake documents and started depositing them in libraries.


I did find something very interesting. In this book, the author (Piers Paul Read) read history at Cambridge* and Runciman's books are listed in this book's bibliography. So clearly the author is acquainted with Runciman's books, and in the concluding chapter of the book he devotes quite a bit of space to debunk the more outrageous of the modern myths associated with the Templars. He specifically mentioned The Head of God and The Holy Blood & The Holy Grail. My interest was raised when (as Jonathan points out above, and I'm yet to confirm for myself) that Runciman specifically mentions as association of name between the Templars and the Priory of Sion. Piers Paul Read (and other historians) must have missed that.

I presume the authors of the book I mention in an above post, Bill Putnam & John Edwin Wood** didn't read Runciman as I didn't find the book listed in the bibliography.

The stuff I've found here I believe warrants answers. If I had the email addresses I'd sent the authors of the two books mentioned in this post an email pointing this out.

*from the inside flap of the book (I have it at home)
** The book being: The Treasure of Rennes-le-Chateau: A Mystery Solved.